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Solar Patroller

Canada
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Posted - 25 Jun 2010 :  02:30:55  Show Profile  Visit Solar Patroller's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The Universe had no beginning and will have no end because time always necessarily has a past so it can't begin at any point. Also, if it did, there would be nothing before it which is also impossible because it is paradoxical to say nothingness exists.

And there can't be an explosion of space because an explosion reqiures matter because there is an expansion and there can be no space without matter.

Pluto

Australia
53 Posts

Posted - 12 Jul 2010 :  06:47:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
G'day

That is logical

The question is how does it keep going ?

Smile and live another day
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Solar Patroller

Canada
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Posted - 14 Jul 2010 :  18:11:44  Show Profile  Visit Solar Patroller's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Continuous creation. This might have something to do with quantum fluctuations in the ZPF (0-point field). Also, matter might be created from light. This was done in the lab for the 1st time in '97 (September 1 issue of Physical Review Letters). It might also have something to do with the postulated abundance of molecualr H, which might explain the missing mass.
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Jim

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Posted - 15 Jul 2010 :  13:35:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi SP, If you don't have a big bang would you have missing mass? Why would you need missing mass?
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Solar Patroller

Canada
12 Posts

Posted - 15 Jul 2010 :  22:18:13  Show Profile  Visit Solar Patroller's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hello, Jim,

The molecular H proposal for the missing mass of spiral galaxies is by Paul Marmet who is anti-Big Bang.

There is also Ronald Pearson's Big Breed model, which has an origin for the Universe at 100 bln. years ago, but I imagine it still might be compatible with a no-beginning formulation.
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Jim

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Posted - 15 Jul 2010 :  22:35:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yea, so why do you need to have missing mass? I know why the BB needs it but I don't have a clue why your eternal one needs it.
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Pluto

Australia
53 Posts

Posted - 16 Jul 2010 :  07:47:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello

We know that matter can change phase from energy to normal matter and vice versa.

Electromagnetic reconnection of magnetic fields enables normal matter to transit, that's to change phase to Protons and Neutrons. Under extreme gravity and the right conditions such as in the core of a star protons change to Neutrons and remain confined. The dipole magnetic fields generate a pulse that ejects matter out from the core.
The following link is of interest.

http://arxiv.org/abs/1007.1522
UHECRs from magnetic reconnection in relativistic jets

Authors: Dimitrios Giannios (Princeton University)
(Submitted on 9 Jul 2010)

quote:
Abstract: Ultra-high energy cosmic rays (UHECRs) may be produced in active galactic nuclei (AGN) or gamma-ray burst (GRB) jets. I argue that magnetic reconnection in jets can accelerate UHECRs rather independently of physical processes in the magnetic dissipation region. First order Fermi acceleration can efficiently take place in the region where the unreconnected (upstream) magnetized fluid converges into the reconnection layer. I find that protons can reach energies up to E~10^{20} eV in GRB and powerful AGN jets while iron nuclei can reach similar energies in AGN jets of more moderate luminosity.


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Solar Patroller

Canada
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Posted - 16 Jul 2010 :  12:09:56  Show Profile  Visit Solar Patroller's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Jim,
There are 2 problems with the dark matter/missing mass. 1 has to do with rotation velocity curves of spiral galaxies, which isn't tied up with expansion and the Big Bang, the other has to do with Keplerian laws, and is (see Cosmology's Missing Mass Problems at datasync.com.

Pluto,
Thanks for the link.
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Solar Patroller

Canada
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Posted - 16 Jul 2010 :  12:11:42  Show Profile  Visit Solar Patroller's Homepage  Reply with Quote
My link doesn't seem to be working but you can find it through a search engine.
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Jim

1607 Posts

Posted - 16 Jul 2010 :  12:53:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The examples regarding Kepler are examples of misuse of rules which is common practice in modern astrophysics. As you know the mass of a galatic structure does not conform to the rules set down for a system where nearly all the mass of said system can reasonably be assumed to be located at the center. Anyone can see the mass of a galaxy is not mostly at its center but is distributed throughout the disk. Therefore assuming the mass is located at one point leads to error which has been exploited by people who should know better to promote silly theories.
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Solar Patroller

Canada
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Posted - 16 Jul 2010 :  15:32:07  Show Profile  Visit Solar Patroller's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Btw, the 1st 2 laws of planetary motion were stated some 650 years before Kepler by Alhazen in Treatise of Place and Avicenna in Theory of Inclination, and Einstein's famous formula was invented by Preston in 1875 in Physics of the Ether, and mass-energy equivalence, attributed also to Einstein, was already known to Newton in 1704 (Opticks).
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Pluto

Australia
53 Posts

Posted - 17 Jul 2010 :  04:16:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello

There is no missing mass.

Since matter cannot be created from nothing it cannot go to nothing.

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Messiah

USA
96 Posts

Posted - 17 Jul 2010 :  16:54:57  Show Profile  Visit Messiah's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It's not by mere coincidence that the language of science - mathematics - encodes its logic into a device called an equation; which requires its elements to be equivalent on opposite sides of the argument. Newton captured the essence of natural balance when he codified the law of physics that states every action precipitates an equal and opposite reaction. Natural balance rules the domain of cause and effect.

It is obvious that there exists an opposite equivalent for every conceivable quantitative value and a reciprocal for every vector in our three-dimensional world. If that same common law of natural balance covertly applies to the realm of qualitative values as it overtly does to the quantitative and spatial aspects of existence, then for every qualitative value there should exist an opposite.

The Standard Model of contemporary physics does, indeed, portray the physical world as paired sets of fundamental particles and anti-particles, fungible and structureless building blocks that include a handful of quarks and leptons and a small assortment of force carriers. But there seems to be a lot more matter than anti-matter floating around the cosmos and, in fact, particles and anti-particles aren't opposite existences, they are only elements in opposing condition, materials that react to each other by changing state and converting into energy on contact. If two independent particles were truly opposite existences they should mutually annihilate on contact. No mass or energy would remain. Instead of simply changing state from mass to energy, all of their properties would physically negate each other and they would totally disappear - cease to exist without a trace.

If within the architecture of each fundamental particle there exists opposing qualities and anti-qualities, then in the finite and relative context the equivalent of 'nothing' exists. And if you take it up a notch to the not so relative domain of infinity...

Cause and effect is a function of existence, not the reverse.

http://www.theory-of-reciprocity.com

I'd procrastinate, but I can't seem to find the time
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Jim

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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 :  13:21:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Notice Newton worked with force. Its a good thing to do since energy is a much later concept. It seems to me some problems are much to do about very little. Since Newton's time mountains have been made from specks of dust on his work. His 3rd law(or statement)presents many bits of contention that never will be resolved-so why even go there?
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Solar Patroller

Canada
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 :  23:40:51  Show Profile  Visit Solar Patroller's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It's like Messiah says, the Universe is structured as binary opposites, which are continuums, and this is a basic law or principle of nature.
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Messiah

USA
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Posted - 27 Jul 2010 :  18:33:15  Show Profile  Visit Messiah's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I used binary as a simple example. In my metaphysical thesis I point out that counter-valent qualitative values need NOT be binary opposites - sic the color example. We'd NEVER know how many reciprocal elements might be at work in any given substructure, but my guess is that just TWO is an over simplification.

I'd procrastinate, but I can't seem to find the time

Edited by - Messiah on 27 Jul 2010 18:34:27
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Solar Patroller

Canada
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Posted - 03 Aug 2010 :  14:57:18  Show Profile  Visit Solar Patroller's Homepage  Reply with Quote
There are light and dark and warm and cool colours and each have their complementaries.
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